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This is the Rant Project. We are a group dedicated to ranting about whatever comes into our minds. Anything goes, no censorship here. No need to format it all or whatever, say what you what, how you want.
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AiAiKi Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2023  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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TheStellarSage Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2022  Hobbyist General Artist
Why the art community keeps going downhill,Why can't we artists catch a break for once? I know many talented artists have deleted their works and/or left social media due to trolls and other drama. And then, there are other ways we're being treated like dirt (and sometimes vice versa). Just so you know, sites like DeviantArt, Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook have shown that the art community isn't as peaceful as it used to be years ago. It's just like musicians and voice actors earning less money when companies undervalue them.The first reason is the lack of respect. Some artists (like me) are doubting themselves with art quality in light of bullying and harassment. Paring/shipping art, heterosexual or homosexual, may attract drama and contention. Beginner artists and even professionals get fewer likes than bad memes. Others intentionally make offensive art (of various qualities), in some cases, for the sake of hatedom or racism. Politically-driven art policing and gatekeeping drive away creators or come at the expense of the artists' well-being (some even attempted to take their own lives); Tumblr and Twitter are the biggest offenders. People have posted spiteful comments on fan art just because they don't like a character. Meanwhile, some creators can't accept constructive criticism like adults. On the other hand, people 'critique' art without permission, usually through condescension, hateful memes, or demanding fan service. Having opinions is one thing, but forcing them is something else. Thus, artists are driven away by those trolls, and some of them disable comments. For the animation industry, artists (including the crunched) are unceremoniously laid off when entertainment corporations like WB Discovery cancel cartoons, which they perceive as “kiddie trash”. And in the real world, there are climate activists recently vandalizing art in museums, which have nothing to do with climate change.The second reason is art theft. GameFAQs, Instagram, and other sites keep reposting/vandalizing fan art without any source/permission because of the belief of all images being "public domain." And with that, some reposters just blame the artists for choosing to publish their works. If that's not enough, reposts may get more likes than the original posts. In some cases, thieves use the art to sell merchandise for further personal gain. Others have impersonated artists to claim the art as their own. Roleplayers have exploited SFW drawings for public lecherous fantasies. Big studios like Nickelodeon and Warner Bros. are also stealing fan art without consent or even crediting the artists. Some people have edited other's artworks into "hate art" because they detest the character or artist. Tracing/recoloring someone's art is also offensive and disrespectful, obviously (looking at you, Sonic fans). And it's even worse to edit art or real photos (let alone someone else's commission) into fetish fodder. The creator of The Fairly Oddparents plagiarized art without remorse, as a $200 commission. Twitter bots and other people are making money from stolen pictures through eco-unfriendly (and shady) NFTs. And now, AI is plagiarizing on tons of art, and potentially stealing art-related jobs. As a result, artists have deleted their drawings, and/or put very invasive watermarks on their future works. Many of them are also deleting their accounts afterwards.The third reason is websites losing touch with artists, as they don't communicate with the community, or even fix bugs/glitches. As a result, people leave those sites and usually never come back. Tumblr has banned NSFW art, and more (like actual clean art), and the admins refuse to listen to feedback or play fair. They rely solely on algorithms instead of checking the art themselves. Despite this, porn bots and hate groups continue to invade the site. Meanwhile, DeviantArt keeps ruining their whole website with awful updates, removing or limiting lots of content. And people wonder why creators are leaving this site. Plus, there was a time when Twitter forced quote retweets, which hurt the creators' potential for fame. But what sites have in common is failing in moderating when many people file reports; cyberbullying isn't dealt with, Instagram doesn't take down stolen art, and Twitter refuses to unban artist accounts that have been unfairly banned for trivial reasons. In these cases, the victims lose, and the culprits win. And now, it's gotten harder to promote art without a subscription thanks to algorithms. But those issues just don’t matter to the mods as long as site revenue grows. NOTE: Starting 12/2022, Twitter is now banning anyone, including artists, who promote their accounts from other sites. Just fantastic.The fourth reason is treason, or breaking trust for the ones you meet. Some have exaggerated or downright fabricated sob stories to trick people into giving free stuff. Others pretend to be friends so they could discriminate artists or exploit them, like stealing their designs. Next, commission/AT scams have happened with tracing, ghosting, and all; there have been artists or clients who did their parts of the deal or paid, only to recieve nothing or a block, or something fraudulent in return. Additionally, major entertainment companies like Disney don't always credit all or any artists (paid or not) of animation studios when it comes to cartoons and films, although this was already common practice in the old times. Art contests, challenges (ex: Inktober), and other events are prone to scandals, like plagiarism or declining art collaboration entries out of personal bias. On the other side of the coin, a lot of professionals (like John Kricfalusi and Ken Penders) turn out to be flat-out jerks (having an awful way of treating others), or even criminals. Overall, fans or talented artists don't always mean decent people, so it's better to never meet your heroes before the pedestal is broken. Whether to separate the art from the artists is a matter of perspective.The fifth reason is request obsession, with the belief that no artists need any money for their hard work, ever. Many people refuse to purchase commissions and instead rudely demand free requests or emotionally trick others into making freebies, perhaps without even a "thank you" afterward. Some spam for freebies when artists are not explicitly offering them. If the artists actually agree to requests, the requesters might nag about when the artworks are finished. Usually, the requests they ask for are ludicrous in nature. Speaking of which, fetish miners manipulate unaware artists (especially minors) into making questionable content, usually for free. Plus, "clients" have artists make commissions before planned payment, only to run away with the apparently free WIPs or even finished products, perhaps leaking them too. It's even worse if they block those artists to dodge a bullet. Some freebie seekers can't take "no" for an answer, in which they might resort to retaliation (death threats and all).I could go on, as there are very few websites that truly support the artists, which is why nowadays, a lot of those talented people become more distant and less friendly or approachable to fans. Most creators avoid being too attached to online communities to prevent or reduce any drama, exploitation, and betrayal. And if that's not harsh enough, the more closed-off Japanese artists are now forced to avoid and even block western fandoms for multiple reasons like art theft and later ethnocentric harassment. This article is also worth reading: www.artsy.net/article/artsy-ed…However, one positive thing I can say are the years of digital art technology advancements, which drive the best art on the internet. Another one is that there still exist some small circles of decent people if you look carefully. Other than that, artists on social media have definitely seen better days, even though the community always had some problems. Even with education, whether the community will ever return to former glory is all up to the newest generation. While a luxury, art is more valuable than you think, so don't ignore it before it's gone.What are your thoughts?
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JustADoppelganger Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2018
For anybody reading this...
What do you think about unoriginal species?
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PASIFICA-PARTY-29 Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016  Student Writer
still living?
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Wolfie303 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Trying to do CPR.
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CynicalBlue Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
SO sorry i havnt been contributing as much.I have been way to busy.I will try to catch up.
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